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Im currently building a Series 1 . I previously bought a Sidecar mount for a cozy sidecar that is for Lambrettas . It bolts around the Frame tube under the floorboards and then comes out to recieve the round flange mount from a cozy side car . What Im curious about is if anyone has a picture of one mounted or has mounted one . 

 

Id prefer to mount a car to the Lambretta but would like to see some pictures of the mounting . I'll take any pictures of mounting by the way not just of a cozy side car. I plan on using a cozy because i can get them cheaper than most . 

 

Thanks in advance 

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I've set them up before. Tube mount on a S2. Biggest PITA ever. I didn't take photos but the owner still has it. I'll email him and see if he'll post them here. If not Josh Snow has/had one on his S2 in Portland.

 

 

Reality here is sidecars, while they look cool, are a huge pain to set up correctly. Once it's done you now have a bike that takes up more than 2x's as much room as 2 bikes, hard to ride and slow.

 

I don't mean to sound harsh but you are getting your self in to a whole new world of complications. 

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I type in" Lambretta sidecar frame" and got lots of pictures !

 

 

The reason I dont use this fucking forum . Thanks I didnt think to google it . I was more or less trying to see if someone had picture of the specific sidecar set up . Thanks for the useful advice. 

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Hey Wolf
I still have my sidecar set up on my early s2.  The oild site had a full pictorial of the build along with my mount and conversion to standard lambretta rear hub and rim for the sidecar.

That said, i will have to dig for pics, since my old PC crashed and took most of that with it.

 

My sidecar is an old Allstate companion model.

 

I made brackets that bolt to the floor struts, that have tube sections on them that act as clamps for the sidecar chassis tube to pass through.

 

I played with my set up and followed the prescribed toe-in as well as offset from rear wheel to sidecar wheel, but ended up deviatiang on the leanout.

 

my set up now is actually slightly leaned in so that when I am on the scooter it is nearly perfectly upright.   It handles well (for a sidecar) but you can never let go of the handlebars on these things.

 

With stock li150 gearing , a Mugello 185 witha 28mm dellorto and a BGM big box it actually moves pretty damn good...probably tops out around 60. still slow compared to the bike without the giant carbuncle hanging off of it.

 

also, it's easier to handle/control with some ballast ( ie passenger) in the sidecar.

 

I'll try to find pics for you.  I can guarantee you that no other scooter you own will attract as much attention as the sidecar does!

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Im putting a rapido in it . Im familiar with the way sidecars handle . I am building it strictly for novelty to run to the store and back or park it outside the bar on vintage bike nights . I'll see if there is anything left of the old site. 

 

The reason im trying to grab as much info is because it was ready fire AIM with this project. Its already painted so Im trying to preserve as much of the paint as possible. 

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Have you tried contacting Ansons Classics in the UK, they specialise in classic sidecar fitting and are very knowledgeable on the Lambretta world to boot.

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The reason I dont use this fucking forum . Thanks I didnt think to google it . I was more or less trying to see if someone had picture of the specific sidecar set up . Thanks for the useful advice. 

 

 

This forum is barely 1.5 years old. Most of the good stuff is still on the old site and we have been working on getting that info over here. Keep in mind there are several thousand threads (some very long) and no one seems to have the time to move them over here.

 

The more we add to this one the better it will be.

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Carl, those are actually my pics. I used that bracket on this Series 2 Li125. More fun than a barrel of monkeys but had to sell it.

 

Hope these pics are helpful, this is a Meyers Aircraft sidecar with the proper Lambretta chassis, it has the sidecar tire located in the correct position relative to the Lammy's rear tire.

 

Cheers,

 

Jay H.

 

Lambretta_sidecar_mount_view_1.jpg

 

Lambretta_sidecar_mount_view_2.jpg

 

Lambretta_sidecar_mount_view_3.jpg

 

Lambretta_sidecar_underneath_1.jpg

 

Lammy_sidecar_s2.jpg

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Jay-

 

Sorry for the mis-attribution.  I've got to get my sidecar rig together before my kids get too old and are embarrassed to be seen with me.

 

Here's another image I found on somewhere the web or a forum showing the difference between V3$p@ and Lambretta Meyers sidecar setups.  This may be your image, too.

 

sidecar_frames_measured_zps05fd1b2c.jpg

 

Here is a picture of the clamp that's used with a Watsonian Bambini sidecar:

 

clamp_zps5c988caa.jpg

 

regards,

Carl K.

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Im currently building a Series 1 . I previously bought a Sidecar mount for a cozy sidecar that is for Lambrettas . It bolts around the Frame tube under the floorboards and then comes out to recieve the round flange mount from a cozy side car . What Im curious about is if anyone has a picture of one mounted or has mounted one . 

 

Id prefer to mount a car to the Lambretta but would like to see some pictures of the mounting . I'll take any pictures of mounting by the way not just of a cozy side car. I plan on using a cozy because i can get them cheaper than most . 

 

Thanks in advance 

 

I have set up a few sidecar rigs using the cozy mount. The Cozy mount is really beefy and requires a little finesse to get the floorboard on. I move the brake switch to the right on the floorboard support, and then tap a bolt into the side of the brake pedal to engage to switch. After you set the proper toe and lean, tighten the fork bearings more than normal to reduce steering wobble.

 

The old style mounts that attach to the cross-members that Jay posted pictures of above are notorious for ripping the cross-members off of the frame. Think of all of the non-sidecar bike you have had to re-weld cross-members on because of the forces of the center-stand, and usually because people sat on the bikes while they were up on the center-stand.

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Net weasel thanks . I have the cozy mount for lambrettas i tried putting it on and it will need some work in the fitting department . 

Did you use an upper mount where the seat mounts go down to the cross member ?

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With the "Meyers" set-up is there any kind of suspension, I've looked at those pictures above and can't see any, am I missing it?

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Yes, I copied Jay's mount, but made it myself and made it in 2 parts rather than one. Works a treat.

 

Skippy...there is a torsion bar suspension in the Myers.

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Some good info here. I'll be getting a mount made to mate a cozy bullet to my S2 shortly as I've had no luck sourcing a Lambretta one. I've just been informed by Dean at Rimini Lambretta that they do not have any of their special sidecar engine mounts in stock. Even worse is that the chap making them is not well and they do not anticipate getting any for some time. I emailed Clauss Studios about the mounts he once made (thinking urethane would be nice) and was informed that they are no longer making them. What are you guys using? Are new mounts from Casa Lambretta, BGM or Scootopia up to the task? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. - Ralph.

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There would have to be some side clearance to allow it to pivot and that clearance would surely just turn into a wear point when in use? I understand where the idea is coming from, but I think other parts of that mechanism would also need to be modified/enhanced to make it successful.

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I going to go with the PLC Corse mounts.  They should be up to the task.  I'll give some feedback once they've spent some time on the road.

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